German Pointers and English Setters are both high-energy sporting dogs, perfectly suited for active owners, including practicing hunters. The German Shorthaired Pointed, German Longhaired Pointer, German Wirehaired Pointer, and English Setter are all bird dogs. However, there are distinct differences between a pointer and a setter and between these German Pointer breeds and English Setters specifically.
English Setters have longer, more feathered coats than German Pointers. Setters are friendlier overall than Pointers but less protective. They are more prone to barking than Pointers. Setters require less exercise than Pointers. Setters are better in families, while Pointers are one-person dogs.
The details provided herein accord with the breed standards and most commonly seen characteristics and behaviors. However, when you are selecting your dog, you need to take into account individual differences. Temperament, for example, is influenced by personality, age, quality of breeding, socialization, training, history, living environment, etc.
German LONGHAIRED Pointer Vs. English Setter
Classification, Lifespan, And Appearance
GERMAN LONGHAIRED POINTER | ENGLISH SETTER | |
AKC Classification | Foundation Stock Service | Sporting Group |
Alternative Classification | Bird Dog – Pointer | Bird dog – Setter |
Lifespan | 12-14 years | 12 years |
Height | 22-28 inches | 23-27 inches |
Weight | 55-80 lbs | 45-80 lbs |
Coat Length | Medium to long | Medium to long |
Coat Characteristics | Sleek with undercoat | Flat and silky; no undercoat |
Feathering | Moderate; on ears, back of all legs, and tail | Long; on ears, chest, stomach, legs, and tail |
Hypoallergenic Coat | No | No |
Ears | Hang down; medium to long; feathered | Hang down; set low on head; medium to long; well-feathered |
Summary:
To see these two dogs next to each other, you will clearly see a difference in appearance. However, on paper, the biggest difference is the extent and length of feathering. English Setters are much more heavily feathered than the German Longhaired Pointer.
As a setter, English Setters are bred to find hunting game and then lie down when a likely specimen has been found. This method goes back to when hunters used to work with nets. A crouched English Setter will not interfere with the net, minimizing the chance of the game escaping. On the other hand, pointers are trained to find game and then assume an upright point position, indicating to the hunter where the game is.
Grooming Requirements
GERMAN LONGHAIRED POINTER | ENGLISH SETTER | |
Maintenance Intensity | Moderate | Moderate to high |
Brushing | Weekly | 2-3 times a week |
Bathing | Occasional | Every 4-6 weeks |
Shedding | Infrequent | Regular |
Ears | Checked daily; cleaned weekly; brushed 2-3 time a week | Checked daily; cleaned weekly; brushed 2-3 time a week |
Summary:
English Setters require more grooming and shed more than German Longhaired Pointers.
Temperament
GERMAN LONGHAIRED POINTER | ENGLISH SETTER | |
General Temperament (AKC) | Versatile; calm; family-oriented | Friendly; mellow; merry |
Affectionate (to family) | Yes; often prefers one person | Very |
Independence | Low | Low |
Intensity | Moderate | Low to moderate |
Sensitivity | Moderate | High |
Stubborn | Unlikely | Possible |
Aggression Level | Low | Low |
Timid | Unlikely | No |
Energy Level | High | Moderate to high |
Attention Requirements | High | High |
One-Person Dog | Likely | Possible |
General Friendliness | High | High |
Child Friendliness | High | High |
Stranger Friendliness | Friendly | Friendly |
Dog Friendliness | Moderate to high | High |
Cat Friendliness | Low | Moderate (if socialized with cats) |
Protectiveness | Low to moderate | Low |
Prey Drive | High | High |
Barking Potential | Moderate | High |
Summary:
English Setters are less intense and have slightly lower energy levels than German Longhaired Pointers.
English Setters are also better with children, dogs, cats, and strangers than the German Longhaired Pointer, but it does make them less protective.
German Longhaired Pointers are less sensitive and prone to nuisance barking than the English Setter.
Exercise And Training Requirements
GERMAN LONGHAIRED POINTER | ENGLISH SETTER | |
Socialization | Required | Required |
Intelligence Level | High | High |
Endurance | High | High |
Eager to Please | High | High |
Exercise Needs | High | High |
Exercise Frequency | 2-3 times a day | Once a day |
Exercise Duration | 30-60 minutes per session | 60 minutes |
Exercise Intensity | Moderate to high | Moderate to high |
Owner Requirements | Active | Active |
Exercise Companion | Good | Good |
Training Methods | Positive preferred | Positive; harsh training will make a Setter stubborn |
Mandatory Training | Obedience | Obedience |
Canine Sport Training | Eligible | Eligible |
Affinity for Water | High | High |
Summary:
English Setters require less exercise a day than German Longhaired Pointers (but they still need a lot of exercise).
Adaptability And Living Environment
GERMAN LONGHAIRED POINTER | ENGLISH SETTER | |
Good for First-Time Owners | Possibly | Possibly |
Good for Single-Person Homes | Yes | Possibly |
Good for Multi-Person Homes | Yes | Very |
Alone Time | Intolerant | Intolerant |
Indoor Living | Should be allowed indoors with family; not suitable for apartment living | Should be allowed indoors with family; not suitable for apartment living |
Outdoor Requirements | Should have access to a secure yard; should be taken outside each day | Should have access to a secure yard; should be taken outside each day |
Toleration of Cold Weather | Moderate | Moderate to high |
Toleration of Hot Weather | Low to moderate | Moderate |
Summary:
English Setters thrive in a family while German Longhaired Pointers are likely to be one-person dogs, requiring only the company of that person to be happy.
German SHORTHAIRED Pointer Vs. English Setter
Classification, Lifespan, And Appearance
GERMAN SHORTHAIRED POINTER | ENGLISH SETTER | |
AKC Classification | Sporting Group | Sporting Group |
Alternative Classification | Bird Dog – Pointer | Bird dog – Setter |
Lifespan | 10-12 years | 12 years |
Height | 21-25 inches | 23-27 inches |
Weight | 45-70 lbs | 45-80 lbs |
Coat Length | Very short | Medium to long |
Coat Characteristics | Thick and coarse on body; thinner and softer on head and ears | Flat and silky; no undercoat |
Feathering | None | Long; on ears, chest, stomach, legs, and tail |
Hypoallergenic Coat | No | No |
Ears | Hang down; medium to long; un-feathered | Hang down; set low on head; medium to long; well-feathered |
Summary:
English Setters are setter bird dogs, and German Shorthaired Pointers are pointer bird dogs. Setters and pointers are trained differently in the hunting field.
On paper, these two dogs differ more than the German Longhaired Pointer and the English Setter. The English Setter has a longer coat and significantly more feathering than the German Shorthaired Pointer.
Grooming Requirements
GERMAN SHORTHAIRED POINTER | ENGLISH SETTER | |
Maintenance Intensity | Moderate | Moderate to high |
Brushing | Occasional | 2-3 times a week |
Bathing | Occasional | Every 4-6 weeks |
Shedding | Regular | Regular |
Ears | Checked and cleaned weekly | Checked daily; cleaned weekly; brushed 2-3 time a week |
Summary:
English Setters require more grooming overall than German Shorthaired Pointers, even though they shed with equal regularity.
Temperament
GERMAN SHORTHAIRED POINTER | ENGLISH SETTER | |
General Temperament (AKC) | Friendly; smart; willing to please | Friendly; mellow; merry |
Affectionate (to family) | Yes; often prefers one person | Very |
Independence | Moderate | Low |
Intensity | Moderate to high | Low to moderate |
Sensitivity | Moderate to high | High |
Stubborn | Possible | Possible |
Aggression Level | Low | Low |
Timid | No | No |
Energy Level | High | Moderate to high |
Attention Requirements | High | High |
One-Person Dog | Likely | Possible |
General Friendliness | Moderate | High |
Child Friendliness | Moderate to high; better with older children | High |
Stranger Friendliness | Reserved to friendly | Friendly |
Dog Friendliness | Low | High |
Cat Friendliness | Low | Moderate (if socialized with cats) |
Protectiveness | Moderate to high | Low |
Prey Drive | High | High |
Barking Potential | Moderate | High |
Summary:
English Setters are less independent and intense than the German Shorthaired Pointer.
English Setters are more friendly than the German Shorthaired Pointers overall, but this is specifically seen in their interactions with strangers, children, and other dogs. However, it does mean that German Shorthaired Pointers are more protective.
English Setters have slightly lower energy levels than German Shorthaired Pointers, especially as they grow older, but they are more prone to nuisance barking.
Exercise And Training Requirements
GERMAN SHORTHAIRED POINTER | ENGLISH SETTER | |
Socialization | Required | Required |
Intelligence Level | High | High |
Endurance | High | High |
Eager to Please | High | High |
Exercise Needs | High | High |
Exercise Frequency | 2-3 times a day | Once a day |
Exercise Duration | 30-60 minutes per session | 60 minutes |
Exercise Intensity | Moderate to high | Moderate to high |
Owner Requirements | Active | Active |
Exercise Companion | Excellent | Good |
Training Methods | Positive yields best results; shorter duration is better | Positive; harsh training will make a Setter stubborn |
Mandatory Training | Obedience | Obedience |
Canine Sport Training | Encouraged | Eligible |
Affinity for Water | Moderate to high | High |
Summary:
English Setters require less exercise a day than German Shorthaired Pointers (but they still need a lot of exercise). German Shorthaired Pointers are better exercise companions.
Adaptability And Living Environment
GERMAN SHORTHAIRED POINTER | ENGLISH SETTER | |
Good for First-Time Owners | No | Possibly |
Good for Single-Person Homes | Yes (if person can meet their exercise requirements) | Possibly |
Good for Multi-Person Homes | Yes | Very |
Alone Time | Intolerant | Intolerant |
Indoor Living | Should be allowed indoors with family; not suitable for apartment living | Should be allowed indoors with family; not suitable for apartment living |
Outdoor Requirements | Should have access to a secure yard; should be taken outside each day | Should have access to a secure yard; should be taken outside each day |
Toleration of Cold Weather | Low | Moderate to high |
Toleration of Hot Weather | Moderate to high | Moderate |
Summary:
German Shorthaired Pointers are not appropriate for novice owners. An English Setter can be a good first dog, but only for a specific type of owner who is aware of their requirements and willing to provide for them.
English Setters thrive in a family, while German Shorthaired Pointers are likely to be one-person dogs, requiring only the company of that person to be happy.
With their long coats, English Setters are much more tolerant of cold weather than the very short-coated German Shorthaired Pointer.
German WIREHAIRED Pointer Vs. English Setter
Classification, Lifespan, And Appearance
GERMAN WIREHAIRED POINTER | ENGLISH SETTER | |
AKC Classification | Sporting Group | Sporting Group |
Alternative Classification | Bird Dog – Pointer | Bird dog – Setter |
Lifespan | 14-16 years | 12 years |
Height | 22-26 inches | 23-27 inches |
Weight | 50-70 lbs | 45-80 lbs |
Coat Length | Short (longer on belly) | Medium to long |
Coat Characteristics | Straight, harsh, and wiry; undercoat is dense in winter and thin in summer | Flat and silky; no undercoat |
Feathering | Little to none | Long; on ears, chest, stomach, legs, and tail |
Hypoallergenic Coat | No | No |
Ears | Hang down; short to medium; un-feathered | Hang down; set low on head; medium to long; well-feathered |
Summary:
English Setters are setter bird dogs, and German Wirehaired Pointers are pointer bird dogs. Setters and pointers are trained differently in the hunting field.
On paper, these two dogs differ more than the German Longhaired Pointer and the English Setter. The English Setter has a longer coat and significantly more feathering than the German Wirehaired Pointer. Additionally, the English Setter’s coat is never wiry.
Grooming Requirements
GERMAN WIREHAIRED POINTER | ENGLISH SETTER | |
Maintenance Intensity | Low | Moderate to high |
Brushing | Weekly | 2-3 times a week |
Bathing | Occasional | Every 4-6 weeks |
Shedding | Regular | Regular |
Ears | Checked and cleaned weekly | Checked daily; cleaned weekly; brushed 2-3 time a week |
Summary:
English Setters require more grooming overall than German Wirehaired Pointers to keep their coats from tangling, but they shed just as regularly as the Pointers. The lack of feathers also makes ear maintenance less intense for German Wirehaired Pointers.
Temperament
GERMAN WIREHAIRED POINTER | ENGLISH SETTER | |
General Temperament (AKC) | Affectionate; eager; enthusiastic | Friendly; mellow; merry |
Affectionate (to family) | Yes; often prefers one person | Very |
Independence | Moderate | Low |
Intensity | Moderate to high | Low to moderate |
Sensitivity | Moderate to high | High |
Stubborn | Possible | Possible |
Aggression Level | Moderate (dog aggression) | Low |
Timid | No | Unlikely |
Energy Level | High | Moderate to high |
Attention Requirements | High | High |
One-Person Dog | Likely | Possible |
General Friendliness | High | High |
Child Friendliness | High (can be too boisterous) | High |
Stranger Friendliness | Reserved | Friendly |
Dog Friendliness | Low | High |
Cat Friendliness | Low | Moderate (if socialized with cats) |
Protectiveness | High | Low |
Prey Drive | High | High |
Barking Potential | Moderate | High |
Summary:
English Setters are less independent, intense, and aggressive than the German Wirehaired Pointer.
English Setters are more friendly with strangers and other dogs than the German Shorthaired Pointers. In fact, German Wirehaired Pointers are known to display aggression towards other dogs. Their friendliness does, however, make the English Setter much less protective than the Wirehaired Pointer.
Both breeds do well with children, but the higher energy levels of the German Shorthaired Pointer can sometimes prove too much for small children.
English Setters have slightly lower energy levels than German Wirehaired Pointers, especially as they grow older, but they are more prone to nuisance barking.
Exercise And Training Requirements
GERMAN WIREHAIRED POINTER | ENGLISH SETTER | |
Socialization | Required | Required |
Intelligence Level | High | High |
Endurance | High | High |
Eager to Please | High | High |
Exercise Needs | High | High |
Exercise Frequency | 2-3 times a day | Once a day |
Exercise Duration | 30-60 minutes per session | 60 minutes |
Exercise Intensity | High | Moderate to high |
Owner Requirements | Active | Active |
Exercise Companion | Excellent | Good |
Training Methods | Positive preferred | Positive; harsh training will make a Setter stubborn |
Mandatory Training | Obedience | Obedience |
Canine Sport Training | Encouraged | Eligible |
Affinity for Water | High | High |
Summary:
English Setters require less exercise a day than German Wirehaired Pointers (but they still need a lot of exercise). German Wirehaired Pointers are better exercise companions.
Adaptability And Living Environment
GERMAN WIREHAIRED POINTER | ENGLISH SETTER | |
Good for First-Time Owners | No | Possibly |
Good for Single-Person Homes | Yes | Possibly |
Good for Multi-Person Homes | Yes | Very |
Alone Time | Intolerant of extended periods of isolation | Intolerant |
Indoor Living | Should be allowed indoors with family; not suitable for apartment living | Should be allowed indoors with family; not suitable for apartment living |
Outdoor Requirements | Should have access to a secure yard; should be taken outside each day | Should have access to a secure yard; should be taken outside each day |
Toleration of Cold Weather | Moderate to high | Moderate to high |
Toleration of Hot Weather | Moderate to high | Moderate |
Summary:
German Wirehaired Pointers are not appropriate for novice owners. An English Setter can be a good first dog, but only for a specific type of owner who is aware of their requirements and willing to provide for them.
English Setters thrive in a family, while German Wirehaired Pointers are likely to be one-person dogs, requiring only the company of that person to be happy.
Conclusion
English Setters and German Pointers (Longhaired, Shorthaired, and Wirehaired) have a lot in common. Still, overall the English Setters are slightly less high maintenance than any of the German Pointer breeds. However, you cannot assume that this makes an English Setter an easy dog to own. They still require daily and substantial exercise and lots of attention.
English Setters are also much friendlier than German Pointers in terms of children, other dogs, strangers, and even cats (when socialized as puppies). However, this does make English Setters ineffective guard dogs.
References
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https://www.akc.org/dog-breeds/german-longhaired-pointer/
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